Talk:Gigashield/@comment-5140470-20130413120555

http://cf-vanguard.com/en/wp/wp-content/uploads/Cardfight-Vanguard-Comprehensive-Rules.pdf

Considering the timing given in 7.4 (Guard Step). The skills where "when this unit is placed on [G]" activates after declaring guards. Renos being able to draw a card makes me find it overpowered.

You see, Battle Cupid, Nociel's skill activates only before vanguard's drive check, allowing Shamsiel to power up there. However, you are not allowed to use the card you have obtained with Nociel's skill as the step where you are suppose to call units to guard is over.

Using this as the base, I can apply this to Renos.

-You declare an attack with vanguard, Renos is in another rearguard's circle at that time.

-Opponent declares guard (usually two triggers to pass).

-Guard Step is over and all skills with "when this unit is placed on [G]" condition are triggered and activated.

-Renos's skill activates and reduces the shield of the guardians, making it to be a trigger to pass now.

Another way is:

-A rearguard attacks a card other than Renos

-The opponent guards just enough. (As usual)

-You are able to activate Renos' skill once again, making the attack hit as Guard Step is considered over.

From this two views, I feel that you'd probably thought that Nociel's skill can activate during guard phase, which is false unfortunately.

You'd probably have to choose between to draw a card or to reduce the opponent's guard. But the latter still feels broken.

Either that or change the skill to.

AUTO [R]: [Counterblast (1) & move this card to soul] At the beginning of the guard step, if you have a  vanguard, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose up to one of your opponent's units that being attacked, and that unit gets Power -5000 until end of that battle.